I think it’s kind of ironic because the natural hair movement, especially in the UK, is having such a moment. Do you think that there’s been much development or change since first spoke out about it?

Yeah, it’s about adding more black people to the team, but I just want more people to know how to do it. Like I said earlier, it’s not a black and white thing, it’s somebody’s job. If you’re a high profile hair stylist you have to know what to do. It’s not fair that I have to be around 500 cameras with blustered hair, looking bad. I’m not representing my community the way I want to. They wouldn’t send a white model on the runway with dirt in their hair. Black hair is very coarse. I could walk in a dusty room and collect it just because my hair is coarse.

It’s about education, I guess.

Exactly. When people don’t know how to do my hair, I don’t just go like ‘OMG you’re a dick!’ – I try to teach them. I’m not going to be mad and have bad energy towards them. I started doing my own hair. Ever since I started, I would curl my own hair and go to set and be like ‘This is the hairstyle that I have’. They’d tweak it, but predominantly, I have always been the one doing my own hair.

Going on to lifestyle bits, what podcasts do you recommend?

I listen to funny stuff, I don’t listen to much serious stuff. I do listen to some TED talks sometimes, and I like listening to Michio Kaku, he’s a physicist who talks about the futurism. I love futurism and studying the future and robotics and programming.

Model Londone Myers talks racism at fashion week, bad eyebrows and living forever