If there was one woman we’d happily take relationship advice from, it’s Michelle Obama.

The acclaimed author and former first lady continues to inspire us all and her 30-year relationship with Barack Obama is one that has long been admired. And she recently shared advice on the reality of marriage and long-term relationships.

Speaking to NPR’s Life Kit amid the release of her second book The Light We Carry: Overcoming In Uncertain Times, Michelle delved deep into her upbringing, career, family and relationship with Barack while adding that she is “fascinated” by young people’s approach to dating and shared her thoughts on how they might find a life partner who balances them out.

Michelle Obama gets real about the challenges of long-term relationships