Claudia Winkleman and clinical psychologist Professor Tanya Byron basically use How Did We Get Here? as a therapy session for a different guest each week. It’s a fascinating and helpful listen for anyone going through similar situations to the guests.

In the first ever episode, they talk to 22-year-old Jack, who no longer speaks with his dad. He looks back on the relationship they have had since his parents’ separation when he was a young child. When he met his dad twice a month, he would always have an anxious feeling. Jack recalls the abandonment and rejection issues. At one point he says: “My whole life, I’ve never felt worthy.” Byron helps him unravel and address these feelings, ending the session with a better direction on what to do next.

Listen to How Did We Get Here?: Jack.

3 big podcast conversations about difficult relationships with fathers