Even before Donald Trump won the US election and the world saw its collective life flash before its eyes, Michelle Obama had been facing calls to run for president in 2020. So far, she’s firmly rebuffed these appeals – but according to an academic who taught both her and her husband, the former First Lady would be more than up to the job.

Charles Ogletree Jr., a constitutional law professor at Harvard, counted both Barack Obama and the then-Michelle Robinson as students during their days at the Ivy League university. And in a new interview with TMZ, Ogletree says that not only was Michelle a better student, he also believes she would have made a better president.

Barack – a self-proclaimed “nerd” – was something of a know-it-all in law school, says Ogletree. In fact, sharing a seminar with the future president sounds a bit like being classmates with Hermione Granger.

“He was speaking too much,” says the professor, now 65. “He wanted everything. He said, ‘I can answer that question, professor.’ I said, ‘Barack, I want to call on Mary.’”

The Obamas’ old university professor thinks Michelle should have been president