L: So who did Phoebe base the character on or was it just made up?

J: It came from the novellas [Codename Villanelle by Luke Jennings] but the character in the books is very different to Phoebe’s interpretation. She added this humour and wit. That humour cutting through the drama was all her.

L: Yeah Killing Eve feels like it’s come from nowhere, it’s very refreshing.

J: Phoebe did send me a link to an advert by Spike Jonze for a Kenzo perfume. There was this girl in an emerald silk dress and she’s walking through this lobby when the music kicks in. She starts pulling all these crazy facial expressions and dancing through the building and I remember that being a bit of a reference.

L: OK, the next questions is, “How are you finding fame Jodie?”

J: Oh god. Well, a couple of weeks ago, I was going to New York and when I got out of the car at the airport at four in the morning there was a bunch of strange men waiting for me to sign autographs. It really threw me because it was the first time I’d had anything like that.

L: Oh, can I give you a warning about that? So, a lot of those guys are not actually there to get autographs, what they are doing is they are trying to keep you still while somebody on the other side of the room is taking pictures of you without you knowing. Just a little top tip from me.

J: Really? Thank you. People think that, oh you knew what you were signing up for when you got into acting, but things like that are totally different. It is a very weird world that we’re living in now, isn’t it? I mean it does feel like there’s a transitional period with fame and influencers and social media.

J: Technology terrifies me. A dictaphone, and an iPhone up to my face while my daughter is looking at me really baffled. Right, let me get back to my notes. OK so we’ve done fame, now it says to talk about us. Over to you!

J: The 16-year-old in me is flipping out right now. I’m being serious. I was always in charity shops getting vintage clothes but when I passed my driving test I went to some buy some CDs and the first album I got for the car was Alright, Still. I used to drive round with that blaring out my windows, living my best life. Honestly I feel like there are so many songs of yours that are important to different moments within my life. I just fucking loved your music and always listened to every word you sang. There’s so much heart and honesty in there, you know?

L: Aww, thank you.

J: Honestly Lily when you messaged me about this, I couldn’t play it cool. It was like when you text someone you have the hots for and it’s like, ‘What do I say? I don’t want to say the wrong thing’. I was freaking out. I think you’re brilliant.

L: That’s very sweet. And the feeling is mutual.

Lily Allen talks Killing Eve’s Villanelle with Jodie Comer: “She’s sexy, she’s a murderer and she’s funny”