Mandy Moore and Ryan Adams were married in 2009 in a last-minute ceremony in Savannah, Georgia.

They had only been engaged for a month, but they called a local pastor and turned up to the church, she in a a lace dress and sandals and he in skinny jeans, a T-shirt and sneakers. The ceremony lasted eight minutes. Moore was 24 and Adams was 34. Their marriage would last seven years until their separation and eventual divorce in 2016.

Last week, Moore was one of the seven women who spoke to the New York Times to detail allegations of abuse against her musician ex-husband. According to Moore, their marriage was one of sustained and prolonged emotional abuse, in which her husband would constantly belittle her career. “He would always tell me, ‘You’re not a real musician, because you don’t play an instrument,’” Moore told the New York Times.

In a new interview on Marc Maron’s WTF podcast, Moore has opened up about how “unhealthy” and abusive their marriage really was.

Mandy Moore reveals she was “drowning” in abusive marriage to Ryan Adams