Speaking to People, the photographer who captured the now-viral image affirmed that Pelosi was sending her applause directly to the president. “I had a unique angle and was able to put Speaker Pelosi right over the president’s shoulder,” photographer Doug Mills said.

“It was a clap that was gestured right towards him [Trump],” Mills added. “And he looked back to get her reaction. It’s not a moment you usually see in the middle of a State of the Union address. There’s not usually a lot of interaction between the president and the speaker.”

Mills doesn’t believe that Pelosi’s clap was a ‘f**k you’ clap at all, but rather a recognition of the power of the president’s words. “A lot of people say it’s the ‘f**k you’ clap, but I didn’t feel that as it happened,” he said. “I saw it as her responding to the call for common ground and saying to him, ‘OK, this is on you. It starts with you. I’m clapping to you. You’re saying it, but you’re also the one who has to follow through.’”

You know how the saying goes, though. A ‘f**k you’ clap by any other name is still as savage.

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