Pinkett-Smith likes talking about sex, because she loves seeing the exaggerated reaction whenever she takes the conversation there. “Even just giving health tips on how to keep your body healthy,” she muses. “Everybody is just like ‘I-don’t-want-to-talk-about-it-how-dare-you’!” She laughs again, a naughty, lascivious laugh like the kind your girlfriends make after one-too-many-martinis.

“You know, when we talked about vaginal rejuvenation [on Red Table Talk] it was like – ‘What is HAPPENING!’” Pinkett-Smith mimes drawing a deep breath and clutching at her figurative pearls. (On the show Pinkett-Smith praised her own non-invasive vaginal rejuvenation for making her vagina look like “a beautiful little peach.”)

“I was like, ‘Are you kidding me?’ You can listen to some men disrespect women and talk about women in a violent manner in regards to sex [in music] but you say vagina and it’s just like, ugh? As if the ‘p word’ is more appropriate than the vagina word? All of that is still fascinating to me.”

Pinkett-Smith is good at talking. Watch her on Red Table Talk and you’ll notice that she has a particular talent for driving conversations, steering them openly and honestly to places that interview guests might never have thought they would go. When they’re there, Pinkett-Smith stops talking and she starts listening. When a guest on Red Table Talk is sharing their story they’ll find that they have Pinkett-Smith’s undivided attention. She holds their gaze. She processes their words.

During our interview in the airy conference room at the Facebook office with the pick-and-mix counter in the lobby I feel the full force of her contemplative attention. No wonder celebrities like Ciara, Common, Kristin Davis and Ellen Pompeo are lining up to appear on the show.

Red Table Talk: Jada Pinkett-Smith wants women to talk more about sex – and this is why